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GAYS BETWEEN SPORTS AND NUDE YESTERDAY AND TODAY
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Hi Project,
don’t take me for a maniac if I write you an email like this, but on certain issues it’s very difficult to have a minimally serious exchange of opinions because it almost inevitably ends up in stupid jokes.
 
I’m 23 years old, to say that I’m gay is something trivial, I have never had any problems with my being gay, I’m not the most beautiful guy in the world, but I defend myself well, I’m a medium-high level sportsman, I do physical activity in the pool at least four afternoons a week and this keeps me in shape. Next year, if things go as planned, I should finish my Master Degree  in things strictly related to sport. The fact that I do sports as well as the fact that I’m planning my future all aimed to sport certainly has a lot to do with the fact that I’m gay, denying it would be like denying the evidence. 

I don't have a girl and I will never have one, because it’s not the girls that interest me, I like guys and here I must underline one thing, if I say that I like guys I mean that I’m fine with them, no matter if they are gay or straight. Liking guys doesn’t mean at all that I would jump on the first guy who comes by. I know very well that the vast majority of the guys I meet in the pool are straight, but with them I feel good all the same, an all-male community is formed, which for me is the best. I don't like guys who are fond of girls, that is, those who, when you talk to them, do nothing but talk to you about their girlfriends or their female friends, however, I don’t like even gay guys who are fond of guys, who only tell you about their boyfriends or their sexual performances. I don't become hydrophobic when I hear about sex, for heaven's sake, but when it becomes a kind of stupid game, well, I just can't stand it. 

I see naked guys every day, I don't say that it doesn't have an effect on me anymore, but it is certainly not a fixed idea, because it is a fact that has become normal and has lost the sexual halo that it had at the beginning. I study very carefully the reaction of the guys while they stay naked together and the reactions are the most varied, from the total indifference of the guy who goes around the locker room giving a show and bragging, if there is something to brag of, to the tendency to shorten the time spent in the shower and in the changing room when it comes to reserved and very shy guys. There are those who if they see a penis a little straight turn to the other side and pretend they have not seen it and there are those who smile and compliment the lucky owner, who doesn’t get ashamed at all.

Days ago I read on the internet some things that impressed me a lot, I read that until 1980 the guys of the YMCA (Young Men's Christian Association!) were forced to enter the pool naked, and this also happened at school in normal physical education lessons, from what I read, nobody was ashamed of such a thing and sometimes during the lessons pictures were also taken (with the guys naked and well recognizable) and the pictures were also published in local newspapers. It was simply said that the guys “had nothing to be ashamed of”, but not only, when a teacher saw a guy with a half-erection, he patted him on the butt saying things like: "Lower that periscope!" The girls instead attended their physical education lessons in the swimming pool with the swimsuit. This is in itself a basically absurd thing, because the difference in treatment between guys and girls in relation to nudity was totally meaningless. 

But, if it were only this, at the limit, thinking of swimming pools reserved only for males, it would also be acceptable, even if it is undoubtedly a forcing, but physical education lessons were also attended together by guys and girls, with girls in swimsuits and guys totally naked. Forcing a very shy guy to undress naked and to attend naked the swimming lessons in the pool with his companions is already a violence, but forcing him to be naked among the girls was really a violence exercised in the most intimate dimension of a guy and I speak of straight guys. Obviously that world was very different from ours.

Besides the university I’m attending another very serious course on sports accidents, the course has a general part of safety in sport, traumatology, study of the musculoskeletal system etc. etc. and then it has a specialized part for individual sports and I chose the football section, because football is an essentially male sport. We go with a doctor on the sports fields to practice with a football team, 11-12 guys, all adults who had given their consent, between 18 and 24-25 years old. After the guys have taken a shower at the end of the workout, the doctor illustrates the techniques of using the defibrillator, mouth-to-mouth breathing, immobilization of fractures and other things, then the guys of the team took turns to pretend to be traumatized to learn and let us learn the practice of what had been explained in theory. It was generally very simple and took no more than an hour. 

Only the last tutorial left me a little upset. The doctor at the beginning explained that footballers, especially professional ones, can suffer from penile trauma (very rarely) and testicular trauma (unfortunately are not so rare) and that it is good to learn which are the symptoms to pay attention to and it is also good to learn palpation techniques to see if there are abnormalities in the testicles. The doctor said that because it was a question very delicate, who of the guys on the team didn't want to participate could go home and added that everything would be done very professionally. Six guys on the team left but five remained. 

The doctor put on surgical gloves, made the first volunteer with the lowered briefs lie on the bed and explained the problems that could be encountered and how to manage them. Then it was our turn to practice (very briefly) on the five volunteers. In the end, since it seemed absurd to me that we could touch those guys so intimately, even if to practice first aid, I said that, if they wanted, I was available for the guys of the team to let them practice palpation and two other students offered to do the same, the others instead left, we were only the doctor (55-60 years old), three graduate students and the 5 guys of the team, we leaned against the wall and we allowed the guys to palpate our testicles in practice. The thing lasted no more than 5 minutes. Then we got dressed and the group broke up. 

The five guys stopped me and told me that they didn't expect a gesture like what I had done and that they were very impressed, I replied that it seemed like a "sporting" gesture, that is, sharing as an equal, then we exchanged phone numbers. Six months have passed and with two of those guys a minimum of relationship has been created (a pizza in three), it seems little, but, even if they are both straight, the level of the discourse in the pizzeria was really high. Why did I tell this story? It is immediately said: I want to be a coach, even a masseur, if it happens, I want to enjoy the presence and intimacy of the guys but I wouldn’t want to put them in trouble for any reason. My role must make me useful but it mustn’t give me power to take advantage of.

Now I come to the next point. I don't have a boyfriend and I confess that I looked for him on the usual apps but frankly they were things to let my arms drop on the ground. Sex was put on display, just like at the market. I dream of having a boyfriend and having sex with him, but it must be a thing consciously wanted by both, it must be a way of showing each other love up to physical involvement, but everything must come by itself, we must be equal. When there is someone who commands there is also someone who is forced to obey and I dislike at all such situations. 

Sometimes I think about what my professional life will be, obviously I have to work only on the athletic performances of the guys I will work with, but they are guys and many other things could be useful for them to know, such as the use of a condom that is too often overlooked, I would like to become friend of those guys, and "wit NO ulterior motivations", they will never have to feel uncomfortable with me, they will have to see me more as a friend than as a technician. Does doing such things seem absurd to you? Maybe I dream of impossible things, but I have only one idea in mind, that of equality, which means above all clarity: if you want to be with me and it is fine for me, the problems are all external but, if it is not really good for me, the relationship doesn’t really exist. 

And then, I dream of solidarity, if and when it should be necessary, which means that we are not together only when there are no problems, but also when problems are there, indeed above all when problems are there. Loving each other doesn't mean just sex, otherwise it just doesn't make sense. Sometimes I think I'm flying with fantasy and I'm building my own dream book and then I'm also afraid of being hypocritical, because I don't make a selection of the guys based on the fact that they are more or less generous, more or less affectionate, no! I make a selection based at 99% on the physical aspect, then maybe, to the proof of the facts, I can also completely upset my ranking, because the most beautiful guy may also be the worst in many other aspects, and it happens a lot of times! 

I've never had a relationship with a guy, at any level, and sometimes I think it won't happen, but not because I'm a loser or something, but because I have my all-male world, basically I really have it, the swimming pool, gyms, athletic training gives me that masculine touch that fascinates me, then maybe having a guy of my own, who knows, could be a very complicated thing, assuming that the right guy for me exists. My parents don't ask too many questions, that is, in practice, they don't ask themselves why I don't have a girlfriend, and for someone like me, who lives for sport, a more or less acceptable motivation is easy to find. For me the smile of a guy is something that has an enormous value. 

Some afternoon, when I’m a little freer, I go to train an athletic sports group, made up of university students, I’m fine with them, I do sports with them, I shower with them, I am the coach, but basically we are the same age and I feel like one of them. I’m not looking for sexual involvement, because I should find such things whenever I want and I don't even go spying on these guys to steal their intimacy. Indeed, this is something that I thought about for a while, but today it seems to me really meaningless. It is as if the guys of the sports groups made up my private family, with them there is a small piece of life in common. They are not always the same guys, it's true, but they are, all of them, excellent guys. I don't know if you have ever noticed it (if you have attended sports environments) but the guys who play sports have something special and not only on a physical level, they are more direct, less hypocritical, more used to being together and to be a group. 

I have given myself rules to follow in my relationships with the guys, they may seem absurd rules but they are certainly useful: 1) never take initiatives, 2) demonstrate maximum availability if they ask me something, 3) accept a complementarity and marginal role in their life, because that role can really exist, and not expect anything else, 4) last but fundamental thing, never forget that 92% of them are straight guys. I happened twice to find myself in front of guys who seemed gay to me but they kept our relationship at the level of simple conversation and I did the same. The temptation was great, because one of them, in particular, was also a beautiful guy, who embodied my ideal as a beautiful guy, but everything remained on the level of not verified hypotheses and frankly I don't mind anymore. 

Last reflection (which coming by someone who has no experience, sounds somehow strange) I think that sex, even if it is, at least a bit, the underlying spring of getting in couple, doesn’t add much to loving each other (at this point I expect the exclamation: "Hypocrite!") and sex is also dangerous, not only for diseases, but because, after some time, it can be remembered as something negative, as a form of exploitation, as something done but not really wanted, or, worse, made in fact by mistake or boredom with a person who didn't deserve it at all. That's all, Project, what do I expect from you? Frankly, I don't know, maybe just a very straightforward answer.

Thanks for what you do, it's a really useful job and I add unique, on the net I have never found anything like it. I appreciate very much that all contents are downloadable for free and without registration, today it hardly ever happens! 

Laurence (invented name)
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#2
I have to tell you something, Project, on your forum I don't like all those parades of good feelings and the total devaluation of sex. Are we joking? Are those who write to you gay guys? I say this because they seem hermits who must flee from sex in all its manifestations. Ok, I will try to respect the bon ton of your forum, but you have to be clear, being gay will also have an emotional basis, also very important, it will also be a matter of good feelings, these things are all there, but if we want, they come after. Excuse the vulgarity, but I’m gay and I like the co.k, I'm sorry if someone gets annoyed, but it is so, and if one wants to be honest he must recognize it. Please note, Project, I'm not saying a blasphemy! It is so, it has always been so, there is little to do. And then all the guys offended by pornography and dating sites ... but if these things bother you, what are you going to look for there? But going there and saying that such sites suck it’s really absurd. I go to porn sites and spend a lot of time there, do I have to be ashamed of this? Do I have to consider myself a pervert for this? But millions of straight and gay people of all ages go there, also married and with children. Only the guys who write to this forum are shocked if they see some sex on porn sites. But then I would like to see if they really get offended! There is around, especially in this forum, a creeping hypocrisy that is a bit painful. I use apps, yes I use them, I contacted several guys and with someone, when we met, we were not just looking at each other in the eyes. Of course I use the brain and if we aren’t able to limit ourselves to do things not at risk, we “must” use condoms! I'm not crazy! I like to be with the guys and, at least at the first eye contact what matters is the sexual feeling, there are guys who have a very strong power of attraction on me, that is, they make me come hard at first glance, because they are explosively sexy! I only see them once and they already poke me! When I say that I fall in love (and sometimes it happens to me too!) I want to say in the very first place that I feel very strong sexual attraction towards this guy, that is that I want that guy physically, I want all of him starting from his sex, which is not the last chapter of the story but the first. If there are no such feelings with a guy, there is nothing real! He can be nice, anything you want but he doesn’t excite you, and tell me that you never happened to feel your c.ck hard just to be close to a guy who interested you! Project, I understand that your forum is not a porn site, it is clear that it is not, but why have the guys to demonize sex? I’m young, I’m 21 years old, but is it possible that a guy my age have to feel obbliged to avoid enjoying some sex now? Why does he have to give it up? Maybe because it's just sex, that is, sex without love? But sex with love lasts a short time, then love passes and for us there is nothing but disappointment. I don’t delude myself, I don't want to put any guy on a leash: we just have some sex (protected, for heaven's sake!) , we do something that we like and that does no harm to anyone, but why should we give it up? Sex is beautiful even without affective implications, but why does saying such a thing cause so many negative reactions? It is an incontrovertible fact for millions of people: sexual deprivation hurts, before I was very repressed and I felt very bad, now I have loosened myself from laces of any kind (more or less) and I have my sexual life, not emotional (and unfortunately, I add), but I have it! Otherwise I wouldn't even have that. I learned to be careful and not get into trouble. With some guys sex is something like ac acting, but if you find the guy really involved it's an explosive thing that takes you to another dimension! Even the forum guys certainly know it too, even those who don't think about the c.ck!
If that doesn't upset you, add this email to comment on the sportsman's recent email, I have to say that he seemed to me a very hypocritical guy.
Good evening.
Freddy
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